Episode 55: Talking Trauma Across the Atlantic with Jay Levy & Robin Johnson

Podcasters: Jay Levy, Robin Johnson, Matthew Bennett, & Dr. Jerry Yager

Jay Levy and Robin Johnson join Matt, Curt, and Jerry to discuss their recent book Cross-Cultural Dialogues on Homelessness: From Pretreatment Strategies to Psychologically Informed Environments which was inspired by conversations surrounding homelessness between providers in the United States and the United Kingdom. In their book, Levy and Johnson present a range of best practices for those experiencing homelessness and trauma. In this episode, we explore the insights gained from their important dialogue and how innovation emerges from learning outside our normal focus areas.

Discussion questions:

  1. What lessons did you learn from the experience and conversations of Levy and Johnson?
  2. How could the concepts of pre-treatment or psychologically informed environment help you think about your work?
  3. Did you see any opportunities to step outside your normal focus areas to learn from those with different experiences and unique expertise?




Matt’s Review of Cross-Cultural Dialogues on Homelessness




Jay Levy on “Housing First” as practice and as policy

Jay Levy isa  homelessness outreach social worker and manager, and the author of two excellent books on ‘Pretreatment’ and the skills of engagement. Here he is in conversation with Robin Johnson, author of the concept of a ‘Psychologically Informed Environment’ about the way that Housing First seems to have gradually shifted from a creative solution to the problems of some individuals, to a policy programme of government.

Learn more about Jay S. Levy and his books at his website.


Jay S. Levy on Denver Radio

Jay S. Levy
Jay S. Levy
Jay S. Levy

Author Jay S. Levy appeared with host Chuck Clark at KYGO – Denver radio

Click here to listen to the interview

Jay is the author of Pretreatment Guide for Homeless Outreach & Housing First: Helping Couples, Youth, and Unaccompanied Adults and several other publications about how we can help the homeless in America.  He has worked more than 25 years as a social worker in Massachusetts on the front lines of homelessness epidemic as well as training others in how to work with them.